Updated PoD Category Chart (9/7)

Hey everyone,

It’s been a little over three weeks since we last updated the Pitch or Ditch category chart, so here it is!

Pitch or Ditch Chart 9-7

Once again, a reminder as to how the chart works:

We’ve divided all of the current starting rotation pitchers in the Majors into five groups: Aces, Grads (pitchers who should not be dropped and can be started almost all the time), Pitch or Ditch (guys who you should be picking up to start in favorable matchups but do not deserve a regular roster spot), DTMs (guys who we are fed up with and would not start under any circumstances for the time being) and Indifferents (guys who we don’t feel any ill-will towards but who just aren’t that good). Keep in mind that we’re basing this on a standard 12-team mixed league.

And here are the changes we’ve made since the last version, as we finally send Ricky Romero to Club DTM. Remember when he was an ace back in April? It’s been a long, long season for Ricky Ro.

                                                                                                                                  PROMOTIONS

Dempster PoD to grad

Holland PoD to grad

Medlen PoD to grad

Estrada PoD to grad

Iwakuma indifferent to PoD

Hefner indifferent to PoD

De Vries indifferent to PoD

Nolasco DTM to PoD

DEMOTIONS

Cahill grad to PoD

McAllister grad to PoD

Alvarez PoD to indifferent

Romero PoD to DTM

As always, feel free to comment. Disagree with some of our choices? We’d love to hear from you.

-Zach

5 Comments

A great chart like always, but I just have a few questions. I think Chris Sale should be an Ace and Carlos Villanueva should be a Grad. With Sale, he’s been dominant this year, 2.88 era 1.08 whip 8.95 k/9 and a k:bb ratio of 4:1, all of which are better than similar aces like CC Sabathia, Cliff Lee, and Zack Greinke. His xFIP and BABIP are also sitting at respectable levels, so I dont think it’s much of a fluke. He’s also pitching on a 1st place team and has been arguably the team’s ace next to Jake Peavy, but has been better than Peavy this year.

As for Villanueva, he’s had a 3.50 era and 1.10 whip and, like sale, posting a 4:1 k:bb ratio and 8.88 k/9. I know it may be a limited sample in 72 innings, but he’s got a relatively decent track record as a starter and has faced tough competition and has posted quality starts in 8/12 starts and of those 12 starts, only 3 of them have been against poor quality teams (KC, SEA, CLE). The rest have been against possible playoff teams (DET, BOS, LAA, BAL, TEX, TB, CHW) and relatively consistent minus his 6 run start 2 starts ago.

I hope you could take these 2 guys into the next chart consideration. Thanks for all your guys’ great work you’ve done.

Chris,

A fair point on Sale but he does have a not so great 3.93 ERA since the All-Star break with 12 homers allowed in 10 starts. And we tend to be very strict when it comes to Ace promotions. More good points on Villanueva. I agree with you more on him than on the Sale ace promotion!

Zach

Zach,
Great points on Sale. Also, I have some more info with him: his GB% decreased and FB% increased by 15% and 12% respectively in the month of August, while his HR/FB has gone up also from 10 to 25 percent as well. I have compared his most recent start (v. KC) and the one before (@DET) and i noticed a stark comparison in not only location but pitch selection. In DET, he relied much more on the slider and missed up with more frequency, while against KC, he used alot more of his developing changeup to probably induce more contact. His slider, as it seems, has a slight tendency at times to rise and stay up in the zone, possibly leading to more homers given up the past month or so. I just have another quick question, what do you think Sale’s long term risk is? As a keeper owner his herky jerky motion has me concerned but on a level of health from 1-10 how concerned would you be? Thank you like always, great stuff.

Chris Roeder

Wow, Chris. You should apply for a scouting job somewhere! As for risk, I think that all starting pitchers are big health risks, which is why I tend to wait until the middle rounds to draft them. Can’t really pinpoint the level of risk for this very reason. Sale is a guy who I think will be overvalued in drafts next year. You’ll have to pay #2 SP type price for him and 2013 will be just his second season in the rotation. A lot of risk considering that price tag. In a keeper league, if you have him at a great value, that’s one thing. But if a pitcher vs. hitter keeper choice is a close call, I always lean towards the hitter.

Zach

Zach,
Thanks for the comment, a little baseball watching never hurt anyone! And right now he’s a keeper behind Stras, Felix, Kemp, and Holliday in a 16-team h2h points 6-keeper and ahead of probably one of Headley, Mauer, Rios, JJ, Ethier, Jeter, Konerko and guys in my league are in love with him, so as a 5th keeper I don’t think I’m doing too bad with Sale. As for the rest, well whatever haha theyre all not bad i guess and thanks again as always and your podcasts are definitely the most informative around. All the others try to be too showy, yours are just straight info and that’s awesome. Great work as usual and thanks for all the advice.
Chris Roeder

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